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	<title>Comments on: BABIP Gets Everyone in the End: No Exceptions</title>
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		<title>By: ahl</title>
		<link>http://wickedclevah.com/2008/07/06/babip-gets-everyone-in-the-end-no-exceptions/comment-page-1/#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>ahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All hail ahl, master of pointless queries.</description>
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		<title>By: Geof F. Morris</title>
		<link>http://wickedclevah.com/2008/07/06/babip-gets-everyone-in-the-end-no-exceptions/comment-page-1/#comment-419</link>
		<dc:creator>Geof F. Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I think that I&#039;ve read that elsewhere, actually.  Yeah, everyone seems to regress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I think that I&#8217;ve read that elsewhere, actually.  Yeah, everyone seems to regress.</p>
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		<title>By: sog</title>
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		<dc:creator>sog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. Or at least: I don&#039;t think so. I think the point that I&#039;m actually making is that there is no observable correlation, at least in the samples that I&#039;ve seen. 

Take Derek Lowe and Beckett: two pitchers that are stylistically very different. Their respective career BABIPs? .297 and .297. 

How about a soft tosser like Tom Glavine? .286. 

Knuckleballer? Wakefield&#039;s at .281. 

One pitch closers? Rivera&#039;s at .278. 

If there&#039;s a discernible correlation between BABIP and pitcher type, I haven&#039;t seen it yet in the data. As far as I can tell, BABIP gets everyone in the end. No exceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. Or at least: I don&#8217;t think so. I think the point that I&#8217;m actually making is that there is no observable correlation, at least in the samples that I&#8217;ve seen. </p>
<p>Take Derek Lowe and Beckett: two pitchers that are stylistically very different. Their respective career BABIPs? .297 and .297. </p>
<p>How about a soft tosser like Tom Glavine? .286. </p>
<p>Knuckleballer? Wakefield&#8217;s at .281. </p>
<p>One pitch closers? Rivera&#8217;s at .278. </p>
<p>If there&#8217;s a discernible correlation between BABIP and pitcher type, I haven&#8217;t seen it yet in the data. As far as I can tell, BABIP gets everyone in the end. No exceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Geof F. Morris</title>
		<link>http://wickedclevah.com/2008/07/06/babip-gets-everyone-in-the-end-no-exceptions/comment-page-1/#comment-416</link>
		<dc:creator>Geof F. Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aren&#039;t you still cherry-picking here, Steve?  Seems to me that the answer is to correlate pitcher type and BABIP rate, if possible.  I&#039;d expect that PitchF/X data can be used here.

Not that I&#039;m suggesting that you do this, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t you still cherry-picking here, Steve?  Seems to me that the answer is to correlate pitcher type and BABIP rate, if possible.  I&#8217;d expect that PitchF/X data can be used here.</p>
<p>Not that I&#8217;m suggesting that you do this, of course.</p>
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