Comments on: BABIP Gets Everyone in the End: No Exceptions http://wickedclevah.com/2008/07/06/babip-gets-everyone-in-the-end-no-exceptions/ a red sox blog, because the whiner line makes all of us look bad Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:30:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: ahl http://wickedclevah.com/2008/07/06/babip-gets-everyone-in-the-end-no-exceptions/#comment-423 ahl Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:56:44 +0000 http://wickedclevah.com/2008/07/06/babip-gets-everyone-in-the-end-no-exceptions/#comment-423 All hail ahl, master of pointless queries. All hail ahl, master of pointless queries.

]]> By: Geof F. Morris http://wickedclevah.com/2008/07/06/babip-gets-everyone-in-the-end-no-exceptions/#comment-419 Geof F. Morris Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:51:50 +0000 http://wickedclevah.com/2008/07/06/babip-gets-everyone-in-the-end-no-exceptions/#comment-419 And I think that I've read that elsewhere, actually. Yeah, everyone seems to regress. And I think that I’ve read that elsewhere, actually. Yeah, everyone seems to regress.

]]> By: sog http://wickedclevah.com/2008/07/06/babip-gets-everyone-in-the-end-no-exceptions/#comment-417 sog Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:18:51 +0000 http://wickedclevah.com/2008/07/06/babip-gets-everyone-in-the-end-no-exceptions/#comment-417 No. Or at least: I don't think so. I think the point that I'm actually making is that there is no observable correlation, at least in the samples that I've seen. Take Derek Lowe and Beckett: two pitchers that are stylistically very different. Their respective career BABIPs? .297 and .297. How about a soft tosser like Tom Glavine? .286. Knuckleballer? Wakefield's at .281. One pitch closers? Rivera's at .278. If there's a discernible correlation between BABIP and pitcher type, I haven't seen it yet in the data. As far as I can tell, BABIP gets everyone in the end. No exceptions. No. Or at least: I don’t think so. I think the point that I’m actually making is that there is no observable correlation, at least in the samples that I’ve seen.

Take Derek Lowe and Beckett: two pitchers that are stylistically very different. Their respective career BABIPs? .297 and .297.

How about a soft tosser like Tom Glavine? .286.

Knuckleballer? Wakefield’s at .281.

One pitch closers? Rivera’s at .278.

If there’s a discernible correlation between BABIP and pitcher type, I haven’t seen it yet in the data. As far as I can tell, BABIP gets everyone in the end. No exceptions.

]]> By: Geof F. Morris http://wickedclevah.com/2008/07/06/babip-gets-everyone-in-the-end-no-exceptions/#comment-416 Geof F. Morris Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:38:50 +0000 http://wickedclevah.com/2008/07/06/babip-gets-everyone-in-the-end-no-exceptions/#comment-416 Aren't you still cherry-picking here, Steve? Seems to me that the answer is to correlate pitcher type and BABIP rate, if possible. I'd expect that PitchF/X data can be used here. Not that I'm suggesting that you do this, of course. Aren’t you still cherry-picking here, Steve? Seems to me that the answer is to correlate pitcher type and BABIP rate, if possible. I’d expect that PitchF/X data can be used here.

Not that I’m suggesting that you do this, of course.

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